Commenti a: OpenEd: week 13 - The future of Open Education http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/ Periodically re-invent yourself!! Tue, 07 Feb 2012 05:21:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 di Nuccia Silvana Pirruccello http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/#comment-21938 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:44:43 +0000 http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/#comment-21938 "maybe we too, as a “province of the Empire”, will have a chance… Alternatively, we can still translate, and translate, and translate…" The other alternative for us Italians might be 'working with English' from the very begining and trib, sort of good quality international dialogue on more specific issues of a specific OER...why not? Isn't it something we are still experiencing in this course with David Wiley? “maybe we too, as a “province of the Empire”, will have a chance… Alternatively, we can still translate, and translate, and translate…”

The other alternative for us Italians might be ‘working with English’ from the very begining and trib, sort of good quality international dialogue on more specific issues of a specific OER…why not?

Isn’t it something we are still experiencing in this course with David Wiley?

]]> di Catia http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/#comment-21834 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:22:22 +0000 http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/#comment-21834 Hi, Antonio! Your blog is rich with much useful information. Well, 3 main points called my attention: 1) that you stress the responsability of government in initiatives linked to open education: I can also say that the situation in Brazil is not much different. Most of the OE projects that I know of are connected to the Brazilian Ministry of Education (still in of a very incipient and experimental nature); 2) the need of lincense compatibility: it really is a burden to deal with the differences and how they affect education; 3) OERs and the opportunities for developing countries: I agree with you, but one needs to know the reality and how things are processed there in order to understand how the best intentions can be killed. Also, as you mentioned, more needs to be done than mere translation of the courses. Hi, Antonio!
Your blog is rich with much useful information.
Well, 3 main points called my attention: 1) that you stress the responsability of government in initiatives linked to open education: I can also say that the situation in Brazil is not much different. Most of the OE projects that I know of are connected to the Brazilian Ministry of Education (still in of a very incipient and experimental nature); 2) the need of lincense compatibility: it really is a burden to deal with the differences and how they affect education; 3) OERs and the opportunities for developing countries: I agree with you, but one needs to know the reality and how things are processed there in order to understand how the best intentions can be killed. Also, as you mentioned, more needs to be done than mere translation of the courses.

]]> di K-12 http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/#comment-21812 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 12:17:30 +0000 http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/#comment-21812 Dear Anto, I understand your critics about spreading usage of OER and similars to K-12 education. Neverthless I have to remark strongly that my idea and, hopefully, not only mine, is that OERs (or any digitalised content and activity) are not to be taken as surrogating medias for traditional education. I try to explain it through points: a. open curricula: I was reading some of the posts for week 13, and found out the recursive idea of competence as a goal, a final point in the educational project. In the italian school we are working now a lot around competences, trying to define them, to give them a sense and a shareable profile. If I get my pupils to the pc and let them learn something in a passive modality, such as a test, or a lesson I prepared before, I'm doing nothing different from a lesson without computer, without OER and so on. But if I get in my didactical practice and proposals some instruments which call each single student in the "game" as first actor, I am doing something else, something different. It's far too easy to say that children shouldn't use electronic media in their early age. They do use electronic medias much better than their parents and much better than a lot of their teachers. But how do they use them? Whichi of them do they use? How do they spend their time really? Did you forget about Catepol's discussione in LTever about badoo? I am not the person persuaded of a substitution of textbooks and material objects through computers and immaterial objects. But I am steadly convinced that we - teachers - must be masters in using them, masters in choosing when and which and how much and how often they must be used in the classroom, and last but not least, we should use them in order to inform and form children's character so that they can defend themselves from internet's backside's problems Dear Anto,
I understand your critics about spreading usage of OER and similars to K-12 education.
Neverthless I have to remark strongly that my idea and, hopefully, not only mine, is that OERs (or any digitalised content and activity) are not to be taken as surrogating medias for traditional education.
I try to explain it through points:
a. open curricula: I was reading some of the posts for week 13, and found out the recursive idea of competence as a goal, a final point in the educational project. In the italian school we are working now a lot around competences, trying to define them, to give them a sense and a shareable profile. If I get my pupils to the pc and let them learn something in a passive modality, such as a test, or a lesson I prepared before, I’m doing nothing different from a lesson without computer, without OER and so on. But if I get in my didactical practice and proposals some instruments which call each single student in the “game” as first actor, I am doing something else, something different.
It’s far too easy to say that children shouldn’t use electronic media in their early age. They do use electronic medias much better than their parents and much better than a lot of their teachers.
But how do they use them? Whichi of them do they use? How do they spend their time really?
Did you forget about Catepol’s discussione in LTever about badoo?
I am not the person persuaded of a substitution of textbooks and material objects through computers and immaterial objects. But I am steadly convinced that we - teachers - must be masters in using them, masters in choosing when and which and how much and how often they must be used in the classroom, and last but not least, we should use them in order to inform and form children’s character so that they can defend themselves from internet’s backside’s problems

]]> di Rob Barton http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/#comment-21613 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:06:10 +0000 http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/#comment-21613 It's been great having you guys over in Europe localizing Wiley's syllabus and his writings. For WGU, it's not a diploma mill or a certificate-granting institution, but an accredited degree. You've definitely got a point about the lack of community, though. That is unfortunate, because there are so many people you get to know in college when you attend in person. It’s been great having you guys over in Europe localizing Wiley’s syllabus and his writings.

For WGU, it’s not a diploma mill or a certificate-granting institution, but an accredited degree. You’ve definitely got a point about the lack of community, though. That is unfortunate, because there are so many people you get to know in college when you attend in person.

]]> di Megan in Canada http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/#comment-21583 Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:25:33 +0000 http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/#comment-21583 Antonio, totally agree with your comments on the competency-based universities, and the loss of the university-as-a-community model. I mean, I look at my field/research, which is on how civil societies affect education policy in developing countries. How on earth could there be a "competency-based" test on this?? Knowledge growth in this area is all about university-as-a-community!! Your comments made me think deeper, and realize that competency-measures often are just replicating "banking knowledge" or "tabula rasa". Antonio, totally agree with your comments on the competency-based universities, and the loss of the university-as-a-community model. I mean, I look at my field/research, which is on how civil societies affect education policy in developing countries. How on earth could there be a “competency-based” test on this?? Knowledge growth in this area is all about university-as-a-community!! Your comments made me think deeper, and realize that competency-measures often are just replicating “banking knowledge” or “tabula rasa”.

]]> di Elisa http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/#comment-21508 Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:29:10 +0000 http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/#comment-21508 Antonio, your blog is the third result in the google search now, and it is in good company! ;-) I think your imagination is as good as Wiley's, I've found many interesting and stimulating points, most of all the one about the assessment and the idea of "diploma factories", a risk that some universities can take with time. We very well know what happens in higher education in Italy, with overcrowded universities and shortage of funds. "Humanizing" the relationship among the members of a community is essential for its sustainability. Think to the model of the university campus, a dream in our reality ... Antonio, your blog is the third result in the google search now, and it is in good company!
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I think your imagination is as good as Wiley’s, I’ve found many interesting and stimulating points, most of all the one about the assessment and the idea of “diploma factories”, a risk that some universities can take with time. We very well know what happens in higher education in Italy, with overcrowded universities and shortage of funds. “Humanizing” the relationship among the members of a community is essential for its sustainability. Think to the model of the university campus, a dream in our reality …

]]> di Emanuela Zibordi http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/#comment-21261 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:10:35 +0000 http://www.fininformatica.it/wp/opened-week-13-the-future-of-open-education/#comment-21261 Hi Antonio, I?d want to show you wikiversità: http://it.wikiversity.org/wiki/Pagina_principale if you don't know it yet. Is it the first open university in Italy? I think so. About OER in school I wrote something on my post. Contrary to the common thought in the Primary and K12, ICT are quite used, I don't know how much of OER. The hight school, instead, wants to look like a little university, but a little university of 50 years ago! So high school is the most backlog school of Italy. Every innovation is seen as a destabilize thing. Who use techical tools for its didactics is a knowledge terrorist! Believe me. :-) ciao :-) Hi Antonio,
I?d want to show you wikiversità:
http://it.wikiversity.org/wiki/Pagina_principale
if you don’t know it yet. Is it the first open university in Italy? I think so.

About OER in school I wrote something on my post. Contrary to the common thought in the Primary and K12, ICT are quite used, I don’t know how much of OER. The hight school, instead, wants to look like a little university, but a little university of 50 years ago! So high school is the most backlog school of Italy. Every innovation is seen as a destabilize thing. Who use techical tools for its didactics is a knowledge terrorist! Believe me. :-)
ciao :-)

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